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The total charges for that booking are $0.
There are three line items, which you can see here:
https://app.ownerrez.com/bookings/252034/charges
But they all equal $0.
Enter the charges (rent, etc) that you originally charged the guest for this booking and that will produce a Total Charge for the booking.
Booking number 252034
You may have skipped step 2:
Michelle J said:
2) For each reservation, go to the Charges tab and make sure it reflects the actual charges you billed the guest for originally.I have entered this one booking three times, but I can't get into the payment section. It tells me...
No scheduled payments can be added because this booking is paid in full.
Since the amounts keep coming up, automatically, as ZERO.
What do I do next?
Claudia
Sounds good, Michelle.
Thanks,
Claudia
Hi Claudia,
You could always adjust the charges (enter a new line item saying "BROKEN WINDOW $300") and then collect a regular credit card payment for it, using the payment area. You can collect as many payments as you like.
Now remember, if you don't have the guest's permission to use their credit card and you begin to process extra payments, they may complain to their bank about you and file for a chargeback.
It's always best to come to an agreement with the guest first on what all they're paying, and then get their confirmation that you'll be using their credit card again.
-Michelle
I understand. However, I would think it wouldn't be that difficult, since you do have other forms or screens which already provide the DAYS. It would be a matter of taking that field and plugging it in.
Thanks,
Claudia
Welllll.... maybe. I get your explanation but that could be difficult to program and display. I'll pass it along (like everything!) but it may not be easily doable. I'm trying to think through the ramifications.
-Michelle
Hi Claudia,
No, it won't stop the booking. It basically just creates the booking with the same name as the quote.
So if the quote name was entered as "Susy _" (because there was no last name given) then the booking will have the same name. And of course, you can always modify it in the General Info tab of the booking after the fact.
We're adding another screen to the quote acceptance forms so the guest can correct/adjust the name on their booking.
-Michelle
I understand. Thanks. I will do that. How about the DAYS showing. Is that possible?
Claudia
Hi Claudia,
In the future, we envision hosting a CRM-style system where each user (you) gets an @ownerrez.com email address and all emails are sent from it. Then, when guests reply, their email goes back into our system and we track both inbound and outbound emails against the guest. There is a lot of stuff to cover here including a much more robust guest/contact system so it won't be coming for awhile.
At the moment, we've programmed all emails that are sent to include a REPLY-TO header with your email address so that when the user clicks "Reply" in their email client, the message is sent to you. That way you can answer them and address their issues.
To summarize, email between you and your guests is handled by you in your own email client and not by us. (For now)
-Michelle
Yes, but when you generate a booking, you need their full name. From the quote section, they can book right there. Will you stop the booking, if no name is there? Then what would you say to the customer?
Claudia
How would you do this, charge them if you damages were over security deposit?
Claudia
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass it along to the dev team, but I know they value simplicity and cleanliness in the design.
-Michelle
Hi Claudia,
The rate engine will attempt to put in the number of charge types (night, weekend, week, custom) with how many there is.
For instance, suppose that they booked for 3 nights during the "Off Season" rate period. The first line will read:
2 nights (5/1 - 5/3) at Off Season rates
In your case, I believe you're using custom charge types to define 2 night rates as different from 3 night rates as different from 4 night rates, etc, etc. That's causing the system to plug in the custom name instead.
So go to your rate periods, open the charge types and change the Name field to "2 nights", "3 nights", "4 nights", etc.
That should correct the problem.
I hope this isn't confusing.
-Michelle
Hi Claudia,
Currently, our system requires a last name in order to create a new quote, but we'll changing that. It's caused some conflict because - as you pointed out - some people send inquiries without a last name.
What most users do currently, when a inquiry comes in with no last name, is to put in an underscore ("_") or dash ("-") for the last name so that the quote can generate.
In the future, we'll be changing it to require a first OR last name, but not both.
-Michelle
SP said:
7. How might a wire transfer be dealt with? Not that I have any at the moment, but I do get Europeans every once in a while and (I believe) they tend to deal in wire transfers as a norm.SP said:
6. What happens if the charges are over the security deposit and the customer as per the rental agreement is responsible for that amount - how do we get payment then? Maybe this belongs in the security deposit topic?SP said:
5. We don't need to see the customers credit card info correct? I disliked so much having to take the customers credit card information when I was taking a charge, that is another reason I switched to Paypal - the customer had full control of the information and dealt with Paypal directly. But if we need to charge them using Sage from the security deposit we do have a way to do so without having to see their CC information?SP said:
4. Echecks will be a feature that interests me - would a debit card be allowed and how would it be considered - an echeck?SP said:
3. I'm sorry if this is on the site already but since we are on the credit card topic, what credit cards does your processor (Sage) support? I imagine Visa, Master Card, ???.SP said:
Amex was a separate arrangement and fee but processed with that credit card company.SP said:
2. Are the fees the same whether the customer uses a reward card or not (most people now use only reward cards of some sort), what about across credit card companies? I remember MC, VISA charged the same amount (as long as it wasn't a reward card) and Amex was a separate arrangement and fee but processed with that credit card company.Silvia, I'm going to break up each part of that into multiple questions...
SP said:
1. If I use your CC processor (Sage) do they deposit the full amount and then at the end of the month take the fee? Or do they take their fee and then make the deposit? Kind of like Paypal does except they don't deposit into your account but their own account which you need to transfer to your account (after they have released their hold on your money).Michelle,
I look like a piece of cake after the above post. :)
Claudia
In the Quote section of the email, can we have the number of dates in that field? What does the "1 Spring"? It would be one reservation, either way. As it reads now, it states.....
Rent 1 Spring (5/11, 5/12) at Spring rates $650.00 $650.00
Instead, can we have something like...
Rent 2 night stay (Fri, 5/11 - Sun, 5/13) $650.00 $650.00
You know me, I would like those TOTAL NIGHT STAYS in there, and DAYS.
I don't know if I explained why I like these things. TWICE, renters had to leave a day earlier than what they thought, because their wording was not the norm. They would request dates, and not think that the last date they requested is the day they exit. So, when I would send them the quote, it all looked fine. NOW, I send the nights, and the days, so that they understand better and might catch it, if it states 2 nights and they are thinking 3 nights. So, I put as much information as possible. I even go to the extent of saying the words... CHECKIN DATE: Friday, May 11 CHECKOUT DATE: Sunday, May 13... for a 2 night stay.
I felt horrible to cut two people and their families short by one day. But, it was their mistake. Luckily, one of those families loved my house and has come for the past 4 years!
So, that is why I feel the nights and days on anything can avoid problems.
Claudia
If a customer replies to the quote, it is sent to our personal email. Wouldn't it go into your system? Wasn't it actually sent from the @ownerreservation email?
Are any changes coming for this? I am not sure what it should be. Should it be all part of one...ownerreservation? Or should it be separate, when they hit REPLY?
Claudia
How about a sort in the inquiry/booking/quote sections?
Nevermind. I see you have that already! You guys are good! However, you should put the arrow or something there, to let people know you can actually sort in those fields. Until I was thinking that maybe there you can do it, I didn't know it was there. No indication of that. :)
Claudia
Hi Michelle,
I am curious about the credit card processing - I used to have a merchant account and I couldn't figure out how much they charged me - well actually I could if I subtracted the amount I charged and the amount they deposited into my account. I have a few questions:
1. If I use your CC processor (Sage) do they deposit the full amount and then at the end of the month take the fee? Or do they take their fee and then make the deposit? Kind of like Paypal does except they don't deposit into your account but their own account which you need to transfer to your account (after they have released their hold on your money).
2. Are the fees the same whether the customer uses a reward card or not (most people now use only reward cards of some sort), what about across credit card companies? I remember MC, VISA charged the same amount (as long as it wasn't a reward card) and Amex was a separate arrangement and fee but processed with that credit card company.
3. I'm sorry if this is on the site already but since we are on the credit card topic, what credit cards does your processor (Sage) support? I imagine Visa, Master Card, ???.
4. Echecks will be a feature that interests me - would a debit card be allowed and how would it be considered - an echeck?
5. We don't need to see the customers credit card info correct? I disliked so much having to take the customers credit card information when I was taking a charge, that is another reason I switched to Paypal - the customer had full control of the information and dealt with Paypal directly. But if we need to charge them using Sage from the security deposit we do have a way to do so without having to see their CC information?
6. What happens if the charges are over the security deposit and the customer as per the rental agreement is responsible for that amount - how do we get payment then? Maybe this belongs in the security deposit topic?
7. How might a wire transfer be dealt with? Not that I have any at the moment, but I do get Europeans every once in a while and (I believe) they tend to deal in wire transfers as a norm.
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks, Silvia
Hi Claudia,
At the moment, no, but our release for payments by check necessitates having that and it has become high priority.
-Michelle